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Edit request on 10 December 2012

The Natalie Khawam page is currently protected [1] and the redirect only allows for a redirect to Petraeus scandal#Natalie Khawam Wolfe. It is HIGHLY unusual for a WP:REDIRECT page to be locked by admins, particularly in light of the fact that the subject in question was deemed to be unworthy of her own WP article on the grounds of WP:BLP1E, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalie Khawam and at no time during that AfD was it mentioned or considered that her name to be used on WP should be anything else but Natalie Khawam. So why was this redirect page set in stone by admin decree, when it is only a mere redirect? The section at Petraeus scandal#Natalie Khawam Wolfe had originally been Petraeus scandal#Natalie Khawam, as this person is most commonly known, and as she is reported in the media, and is not known to use her former married name ending in "Wolfe". She had previously been married to Petraeus scandal#Grayson P. Wolfe and in all the current media reports about her, at no time is she ever referred to by her former married name. It is not even clear if she ever used her married name, because Google’s cache of http://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliekhawam [2] had her name, given by herself presumably, as Natalie Khawam and this is the full bio on it, note that nowhere does she use the name "Wolfe" professionally:

"Natalie Khawam, Esq., MBA, MS’s Overview

Current: President at Law Office of Natalie K. Khawam, Esq.

Past: Managing Partner at Natalie Khawam, Esq., MS, MBA..."

A basic Google search produces 87 hits for "Natalie Khawam Wolfe" while a similar Google search for "Natalie Khawam" produces 546,000, and a search on Google News for "Natalie Khawam" yields 2,110 results, while "Natalie Khawam Wolfe" yields a mere 2! So something is obviously very wrong here. One more point, where was there such a "furious" WP:EDITWAR that necessitated such a drastic editors block of a page that leads to a redirect?! Looking forward to some answers and hopefully the Natalie Khawam page will be freed up to redirect to Petraeus scandal#Natalie Khawam and NOT to Petraeus scandal#Natalie Khawam Wolfe. Thank you.

IZAK (talk) 09:36, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All you really had to say was that the subsection title in the Petraeus sex scandal article has been changed, and that this redirect should thus reflect it. There's no need to make a technical matter into a crusade against perceived opponents. Righteous indignation aside, I wholly endorse that request. — Francophonie&Androphilie^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 09:57, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not making a "crusade" and not being righteous. Since I am researching and editing this topic I posted this request as well as on some admins to get feedback. Please WP:AGF when all I was doing was just asking. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 10:07, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just anchored the relevant section at Petraeus sex scandal so that this will redirect there... So I guess an admin can feel free to change the redirect, still, but it all has the same effect. — Francophonie&Androphilie^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 10:14, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Retargeted as requested. The name wasn't intended to favor any particular position, it's just where the information was located at the time. I protected it so that we wouldn't fall into an inadvertant recreation of an BLP1E. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 13:25, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion

The article has been made to redirect to the Petraeus scandal page back in 2012 as a result of AFD. Her twin sister Jill Kelley's page was also deleted via AFD but later rescued from deletion review. At present there are enough sources to establish notability for Natalie Khawam so I am expanding it again from the redirect[3]. I will appreciate any suggestions in this regard. Thanks, Swagsevo (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]